The Cadeceus

The Cadeceus, as seen too, in France [and not, America]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TqaVEIUw4U
(Realization issues, abound)


The Palaiologos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN7sKvaHDlA
(Any Given Sunday)

[America, and not, England/UK] ['Sense of Timing' issues]